86 Properties For Sale in North Ward, QLD 4810

Strand Opportunity - Going Concern or Street-to-Street Redevelopment Site. Suit Owner Operator, Astute Investor or Creative Developer.

SALE PRICE
For Sale by Expressions of Interest
Closing Thursday 14th March

Currently operated as holiday letting apartments, the property comprises of 2 titles with 9 x 2-bedroom, townhouse style apartments facing The Strand, with ocean views across to Magnetic Island, and 6 x 2-bedroom townhouse apartments plus 1 x studio apartment fronting Mitchell Street. In addition, the property includes an upper-level 4-bedroom manager’s residence with balcony and sea views, inground pool, and undercover BBQ area. All apartments are fully furnished with new TV’s. Property was repainted 3 years ago....

Rare Ocean Front Development Opportunity

SALE PRICE
$1,875,000
Excl. GST

This 1012 sqm block of land is one of Townsville's rarest development opportunities with limited stock ever coming to the market on The Strand. Improvements comprise of 8 x 2-bedroom flats on a corner allotment. Zoning allows for multi-level mixed-use development.

The property has uninterrupted views of Magnetic Island and great aspects over The Strand which make this site an ideal location for a residential unit development. There is holding income of approximately $42,400 net per annum.

With enormous potential, this will be a sought after location....

22 Room Accommodation Building In North Ward - Townsville

For Sale

Positioned in premier suburb North Ward, directly adjoining the North Ward Shopping Village and only 200 meters to Townsville's most active tourism infrastructure "The Strand", 19 - 21 Eyre Street is now available for Sale.

Currently run as short term Student / Backpackers accommodation this Block Constructed double store building has undergone extensive refurbishment over the past 2 years.

Featuring

Ground Floor – 10 Rooms (9 x 3 Bed plus 1 x 6 Bed), 3 Separate Shower/Toilet blocks, Common Laundry, Large Open Activity Area and Lounge, Large Communal Kitchen, 1 x Managers...

Unique Penthouse / Unit Development Opportunity on Townsville's Strand

For Sale
$870,000 Exc. GST

This truly rare offering of a full 497 m2 floor plate on Level 14 at the 'Aquarius' on The Strand is now available to purchase at sub $900k.

It offers 360 degree views of Cleveland Bay and Magnetic Island, Palm Island Group, Port of Townsville, Breakwater Marina and back to Castle Hill.

The floor is serviced by 3 lifts including a large service lift. It is ready to be fitted out and has previously housed a high end restaurant, however is ideally suited to development into a multiple hotel suites, residential apartments and ultimately a penthouse like no ot...

Prime Location - Lifestyle Change Opportunity

Townsville Apartments located in the highly sought after suburb of North Ward, on the fringe of Townsville's CBD.

For Sale by Expressions of Interest.

The building has six (6) x one (1) bedroom self contained apartments and four (4) x two (2) bedroom self contained apartments, with a four (4) bedroom managers residence on the ground floor.

The property has an in-ground swimming pool and secure garages for car parking. Townsville Apartments is located 300 metres* from The Strand with a supermarket and retail shops opposite.

For more information, to obtain a property information me...

TOWNSVILLE LEASEHOLD MOTEL, 24 ROOMS AND PRICED FOR QUICK SALE.

We are pleased to offer this great leasehold Motel located in Townsville in North Queensland.

This motel is well established with a potential to grow. It has 24 rooms over various configurations and a small in house licensed Restaurant.

Located right next to the city centre and the strand, and nestled on the side of Castle Hill, with breathtaking views, it is ideally positioned.

The restaurant is currently leased but can be run by new owners.

The owner's residence is a large three bedroom unit with spectacular views and a double garage.

Features

• Licensed bar
• Large office
• A yard
• ...

Newly Refurbished CBD Property

LEASE PRICE
$55,000
P.A. | Excl. GST
Lease Price Excl. Outgoings

SALE PRICE
$625,000
Excl. GST

Suite 2 at 272 Sturt Street in the Townsville City has recently been refurbished with three new tenancies created. Each tenancy is 220m2 and has been tastefully restored with high ceilings, great natural light, disabled access plus a secure rear car park for four cars per tenancy.

Located close to Event Cinemas and only a stones throw away the heart of the CBD where you'll find all the major amenities. This tenancy has an open plan layout with a new kitchen, disabled toilet and sky li...

Landmark CBD Asset Opposite Law Courts

Knight Frank Townsville are pleased to exclusively present for sale 62-64 Walker Street, Townsville - a substantial two storey office building strategically located opposite the Law Courts.

The asset consists of a prominent two level freestanding commercial building with basement parking totalling 1,137sqm* of NLA positioned on a regular 1,015sqm* parcel with principal centre (CBD) zoning.

We summarise the key attributes of the asset as follows:

- Vacant tenancies providing genuine re-positioning potential or for immediate occupation
- 19 basement car parks
- Amenities over two l...

PRIME CBD LOCATION WITH MODERN FIT OUT

SALE PRICE
$1,690,000
Excl. GST

LEASE PRICE
$169,000
P.A. | Excl. GST

Secure not one but two buildings in the heart of the Townsville CBD with over 700 m2 in total floor area with the ability to occupy now or enjoy strong return for 2 - 3 years.

The main building and pedestrian access fronting Sturt Street offers 342 m² on the ground floor with a disabled access ramp and toilet / shower.

The balance of space includes a substantial reception / showroom and waiting area with excellent natural light, partitioned offices / meeting room and sizeable board room along with a vast ope...

Boutique Flinders Street East Freehold Opportunity

Knight Frank is delighted to offer for sale this exceptional CBD building located at 209 Flinders Street, A compelling opportunity to acquire a 100% freehold interest in a strategically located CBD commercial asset.

The key attributes of the asset include:

- Prime CBD landholding of 198sqm* with 10m* frontage to Flinders Street
- Iconic freestanding 2 storey building of 220sqm* formally known as “Flinders Chambers”
- Ground floor consisting of entry reception & foyer, 1 x office or consultancy room and PWD toilet.
- First floor consisting of 6 x private offices or consultancy rooms,...

Strong Value-Add CBD Redevelopment Potential 3 Level Office with Ground Floor Retail

FOR SALE
$1,230,000 negotiable

Colliers International are pleased to offer For Sale Trustee House at 438 Flinders Street in the heart of the Townsville CBD. This property is a three-level professional office building with retail space on the ground floor, a lettable area of 2131* sqm, on 1012* sqm of land.

It has lift access through the property along with a rear car park for five vehicles that is fully secure. With the benefits of street-to-street frontage, Trustee House represents a unique buying opportunity in the Townsville market. The property is being offered for sale as vacant p...

Standalone CBD Office - Owner Occupier Opportunity!

This standalone CBD office building is available for purchase partially leased and would suit an investor or owner-occupier across a wide range of professional office or service industry usages.

Features include:

Tenancy 1 (LEASED) - 179sqm* of well-appointed space comprising a dedicated reception and waiting area, logical combination of private and open plan space, modern kitchen and lunch room with ample storage and plenty of natural light - leased until 2023 (full lease details available on request)

Tenancy 2 (VACANT) - 176sqm* of open plan space with dedicated amenities

Generous sign...

ENTRY LEVEL CBD INVESTMENT

SALE PRICE
EOI closing 9 November at 4pm (if not sold prior)


This entry level CBD asset is ideally positioned on a 304 m²* street to street parcel in Townsville’s premier entertainment precinct of Flinders St East and boasts two individual restaurant tenancies on separate floors with two rear car parks. Each tenancy boasts full kitchen facilities at the rear connected to grease traps along with their own M/F amenities.

The ground floor of 126 m²* is occupied by Taj Mahal Indian Cuisine and the upper floor of 184 m²* is occupied by Wild Rice Laos & Thai Cuisine, both of which are long...

Attractive Ground Floor CBD Offices or Retail

This freestanding building boasts a prominent ground floor position on Denham Street in the Townsville CBD. Formerly the home of a real estate office, this tenancy has previously been used for retail and as a hair salon. Includes large open plan area with extra high ceilings, private office, kitchen and 2 dedicated bathrooms. There is also bank vault for storage or an annoying employee....
Ample parking available to the rear of the tenancy at market rates.
Contact Ray White Commercial to arrange an inspection.

Time To Play...

This 3-level retail premises in prime position on Flinder's Mall is available for immediate purchase with a short term leaseback arrangement on offer...an ideal opportunity for the savvy owner-occupier or developer.
Located opposite the popular City Lane bar and restaurant precinct anchored by Woolworths Supermarket and in close proximity to the new Bus Hub and Cowboys Leauges Club this location will only increase in stature in the very near future with the completion of the North Queensland Stadium a mere 500m* away.

Features include:

Main retail level of 450sqm* accessed via Flinders Mall...

Own Your Asset with a Motel Opportunity | Resort Brokers ID : FH005459

Easily managed, this motel offers 29 rooms with enough variety to allow for guest choice and located on a busy through fare road.

- Well established and consistency occupancy
- Located close to Sporting Complex
- Experienced staff to assist with the transition
- Easily operate by a couple
- Coastal location with major facilities
- Excellent opportunity to sell off a lease
- An inspection a must, the property is priced to sell

 
NB: Property inspections are by appointment only

ICONIC CBD BUILDING WITH CONVERSION POTENTIAL FIRST TIME OFFERED TO MARKET

SALE PRICE
$1.3 million + GST


This architecturally stunning two storey building is being offered to the market for the first time since its construction in 1934! Using reinforced concrete this landmark property was developed for the Townsville Masonic Temple and has remained their proud home since.

The building boasts more than 950m2* over both levels and is positioned on a 1,012m2 regular shaped parcel zoned Principal Centre CBD. It is a strategic CBD location directly opposite the Townsville Law Courts, only 100m* from the Council Chambers and State Government offices.

The build...

Fully fitted CBD offices with the ability to be dual tenancies

Situated within Denham Arcade this 116m2 office offers an existing fit out with 6 partitioned offices, meeting room, large open plan work area and server/data room.

The tenancy is also fully data cabled and has heaps of natural light with glass windows down two full sides. The tenancy also includes dual entrances allowing to be easily configured as two tenancies with a common kitchen area to the rear.

Contact Ray White Commercial to arrange an inspection today.

Ground floor office strata - access via Walker Street

This 39 sqm ground floor office is part of the Dalgety apartment complex and is accessed via Walker Street, opposite the Townsville Law Courts.

The layout includes a reception and waiting area, one private office and a open plan process area which includes a kitchenette.

There are shared bathrooms available for the owner/tenants use within the Dalgety Foyer, accessed via Denham Street.

Sale: $110,000 ex GST
Lease: $1,250 per month + GST

Contact marketing agents Ray White Commercial to arrange an inspection today.

"A GRADE" OFFICE ASSET

For Sale
Expressions of interest closing 20 September


Located in the core of the Townsville CBD, 22 Walker Street is a 7 level office tower with an NLA of 3,956m2* and 56 secure car parks. The building is underpinned by long term tenants Westpac, Crowe Horwath and AON.

22 Walker Street is one of Townsville's highest quality office towers having underwent a multi-million dollar refurbishment in recent years and now boasting a 5 star NABERS energy rating. This is a rare opportunity for investors to purchase an “A grade” office asset in Townsville’s tightly held CBD.

Key features of ...

Business For Sale - No Office Hours and a 17% Return in Townsville - ID 8880 H

- Great Committee - 22 Years Remaining on Agreements
- Management Rights For Sale
- Before contract settlement, there will be a dedicated onsite office available
- 22 years remaining on the Accommodation module agreements
- A single person manageable 56 letting pool units
- Great opportunity to grow the pool with 13 outside agents
- Great annual salary of $77,000 + GST, reviewed annually by CPI
- 2 and 3 bedroom unit designs within a 2011 built complex of 70, built over 3 levels
- 2 bed, 2 bath manager's unit is well presented with a 90m² area on the top floor and air-conditioned
- T...

Entry-Level CBD Office/Medical Suite - Vendor Says Sell!!

This professional office/medical/consulting tenancy is situated within the newly refurbished Denham Arcade in the heart of the Townsville CBD and is available for sale with vacant possession.
The Vendor is seeking a quick sale and has slashed the price - don't hesitate to register your interest.

Features include:

116sqm* of well-appointed, air conditioned space including reception and waiting, 5 private rooms (3 with sinks plumbed in) and open plan areas

Two front entrances means the tenancy can be easily split

Fresh fit out with existing infrastructure

Dedicated kitchenette

Ample natu...

Iconic Townsville Hotel - For Sale or Lease

The Newmarket Hotel, one of Townsville's most iconic buildings occuping a strategically located site in the heart of the CBD.

The hotel has undergone premium improvements & refurbishments to provide the latest features of technology, energy efficiency and furnishings, to reduce the overheads for the incoming licensee and position The Newmarket Hotel as a leading multifunctional venue in North Queensland.

Situated on a 885sqm site on the corner of Flinders Street and Blackwood Street and within walking distance to the new North QLD Stadium, Central Queensland University, shops, cafes, r...

Rare CBD Development Site with Views to Ross Creek

For Sale
Offers to Purchase above $1.5M

This 5,060m2 site is ideally positioned in the heart of the CBD and would be an ideal development site. It is made up of several smaller residential lots in the heart of the CBD located just off Hamilton Street.

3-5 Hamilton Street is a 2,024m2 site and then 7-11 Hamilton Street is 3,036m2 of land which can be purchased separately or in one line.

Ideally positioned in the CBD with great views of the City, Ross Creek and the surrounding areas. This could be an ideal development site for residential units subject to Council Approval.

Very ha...

Elevated CBD Office Space

This third level commercial floor plate in the sought-after Walker House and Altitude Apartment complex is available for immediate purchase with vacant possession at a very reasonable price.
In close proximity to the Courthouse, Townsville City Council Chambers and serviced by a quality coffee shop at street level this is a rare owner-occupier opportunity in a convenient location.

Features include:

315sqm* of refurbished, open plan space with new commercial grade carpeting throughout and flooded with natural light

Direct lift access from foyer to tenancy

Dedicated modern kitchen and ma...

CLASSIC CBD INVESTMENT WITH UPSIDE

For Sale
Expressions of Interest Closing 21 June 2018

- Located at the epicentre of Townsville's CBD
- Iconic 1,010sq.m corner site with 3 street frontages
- Substantial income from 8 commercial and retail ground floor tenancies with a combined area of 684sq.m*
- Diversified tenant mix including coffee shops, convenience centre, travel agency, hairdresser and medical
- Net income of $245,904* (plus GST)
- Multiple conversion opportunities for vacant levels above totalling 900m* which have been largely stripped bare and are set for revival to commercial or residential uses (STCA)
...

CBD offices ready to go

These ground floor premises include reception area and private offices or training rooms located in close proximity to the post office, cafes, banks and Woolworths supermarket. Owner will consider the sale or lease of the premises.
Contact Ray White Commercial for more details.

Stand Alone Single Level CBD Office Building with Parking

For Sale
Price By Negotiation

Colliers International have been appointed to sell this solid stand alone single storey office building located in the CBD expansion area directly opposite Central Village. This 357m2 office space has recently undergone some cosmetic upgrades presenting it as a Move In ready opportunity.

The tenancy boasts a modern design and consists of a large portion of open plan office area suitable to a myriad of professional services.

Property Features Include:

* 1 x Reception Area
* 3 x Individual Offices
* 2 x Open Plan Office Areas
* 1 x Boardroom
* 1 x...

Walker Street offices with new fit out and great natural light - entire floor

This newly refurbished office suite comprises the entire third floor of Walker House which is located opposite the Townsville City Council Chambers and Law Courts. The recently refurbished building offers 28 visitor car parks, lift access, generous signage allocation and a first class cafe in the ground floor.

Tenancy features an open plan floor plate, large kitchen, store room and dedicated male and female bathrooms.
A fit out can be completed very quickly by negotiation.

4 dedicated undercover car spaces are also included.

For more information or to inspect, please contact Ray Wh...

Profitable "Going Concern" Freehold Motel

For Sale
Freehold with Business

"Billabong Lodge Motel" is located approximately 10 km from the Townsville CBD, in the “Motel Strip” on Bowen Road, the Flinders Highway entrance to Townsville from Charter Towers, Mount Isa, and western Queensland. It is within walking distance of The Precinct Shopping Centre and Murray Sports Fields, and approximately 3.5 km from Fairfield Shopping Centre and 2.5 km approximately from Rising Sun Shopping Centre.

The motel contains 29 motel rooms, reception, 2-bedroom managers residence, fully equipped commercial kitchen, laundry, storerooms and linen r...

Refurbished CBD Strata Offices - For Sale & Lease

This newly refurbished CBD strata office unit is available for sale or lease.
Areas range from 141m2 first floor fronting Sturt Street and 208m2 first floor with multiple offices within.
The vendor is currently completing the strata titling at present.
Each lot comes with 1 car park at the rear of the property and there is currently toilets on each level.

Lot 3 - Area: 141m2 Sale Price $395,000
Lot 4 - Area: 208m2 (2x tenanted & 1x vacant) Sale Price $435,000

For lease at market rates

Contact Ray White Commercial Townsville today to arrange an inspection.

Refurbished CBD Strata Offices - For Sale & Lease

This newly refurbished CBD strata office unit is available for sale or lease.
Areas range from 141m2 first floor fronting Sturt Street and 208m2 first floor with multiple offices within.
The vendor is currently completing the strata titling at present.
Each lot comes with 1 car park at the rear of the property and there is currently toilets on each level.

Lot 3 - Area: 141m2 Sale Price $395,000
Lot 4 - Area: 208m2 Sale Price $435,000

For lease at market rates

Contact Ray White Commercial Townsville today to arrange an inspection.

Refurbished CBD Strata Offices - For Sale & Lease

This newly refurbished CBD strata office unit is available for sale or lease.
Areas range from 141m2 first floor fronting Sturt Street and 208m2 first floor with multiple offices within.
The vendor is currently completing the strata titling at present.
Each lot comes with 1 car park at the rear of the property and there is currently toilets on each level.

Lot 3 - Area: 141m2 Sale Price $395,000
Lot 4 - Area: 208m2 Sale Price $435,000

For lease at market rates

Contact Ray White Commercial Townsville today to arrange an inspection.

Quality CBD Office Building

This two-storey administration facility is available for immediate purchase and offers a quality professional office fit-out in a convenient central location with secure on-site parking.

Currently accommodating GBRMPA who are expanding and relocating in the near future, the property is situated a stone's throw from the Strand and Townsville CBD and next door to the Reef HQ, Museum of Tropical QLD and Cultural Centre.

The opportunity exists for a potential owner-occupier to purchase the property as a going concern with holding income and then occupy once the current tenant vacates.
The prope...

Refurbished CBD Strata Offices - For Sale & Lease

This newly refurbished CBD strata office unit is available for sale or lease.
Areas range from 141m2 first floor fronting Sturt Street and 208m2 first floor with multiple offices within.
The vendor is currently completing the strata titling at present.
Each lot comes with 1 car park at the rear of the property and there is currently toilets on each level.

Lot 3 - Area: 141m2 Sale Price $395,000
Lot 4 - Area: 208m2 Sale Price $435,000

For lease at market rates

Contact Ray White Commercial Townsville today to arrange an inspection.

Commercial Investment with good returns

* Situated in major thoroughfare.
* Land Area 6474m2
* Building area 3527m2
* Well established and offering long term lease.
* 8% Annual return
* Two tenancies
* Suitable for redevelopment.



The two tenancies are Endeavour Foundation and Townsville Tenpin and Fun Centre.

The current owner (vendor) has held the property for 25 years and wishes to retire.

The vendor is offering a 5 X 5 lease with a vendor three year guarentee

The business of Townsville Tenpin and Fun Centre will be offered as an option for any potential investor who may wish to purchase the business.
...

Beachside Site With Restaurant DA

For Sale
$850,000 Exc. GST
Offers to Purchase

- Freehold beachside block of 817sq.m.
- Unrivalled beachfront and park location on Townsville’s beautiful Stand.
- Development approval for a 2 level restaurant with a 736sq.m of internal space plus 257sq.m of external dining.
- Full council development approval and conditions as well as proposed building plans available upon request.

For further details please contact Todd Walsh at Colliers International.

Landmark Hotel Site For Sale

This iconic pub/nightclub/restaurant site is available for immediate purchase and provides a unique opportunity for the investor or owner-occupier to take advantage of the existing equipment and amenities while re-branding the venue and taking advantage of holding income from the adjoining Sturt Street site.

Situated in close proximity to the North Queensland Stadium Site and priority CBD development zone this area will see an increase in activity and foot traffic in the very near future.

Features include:

807 FLINDERS STREET:

625sqm* of ground floor space including a fully equipped kitch...

Prime Retail Location On Flinders Mall

This substantial retail premises is available for immediate purchase with vacant possession, currently an open plan configuration over 2 levels with a 3rd level providing storage and administration space (possible conversion to residence).
Front and centre on Flinders Mall opposite the popular City Lane food and retail development this is a prime opportunity for a substantial retailer or bar/restaurant operator.

Property features:

1,100sqm* of open plan retail space over 2 levels with office/residence on the top floor

Polished concrete floors and air-conditioned throughout

Plate glass sho...

Freehold offices for sale

This three level building is sited on a main arterial road in close proximity
to the new stadium project now under construction in Townsville's CBD.
The ground and first floor levels are configured as two self contained tenancies
with reception areas, private and open plan office areas, kitchens, lunch rooms
and dedicated ablutions. The building also includes secure basement storage.
Inspect with marketing agents Ray White Commercial on 4726 7888.

Country Setting Motel Prime Position on Western Highway | Resort Brokers ID : FH005047

Motels in this district are very tightly held. Easy to operate B & B with no restaurant. It’s an easily managed 18 room business perfect for beginners, easily operated by a couple with casual staff when needed.

- Highway presence
- Opportunity for further growth
- Easy to manage quality accommodation business
- Experienced staff to assist with transition
- Spacious living accommodation attached to reception
- 11 units recently refurbished
- Located close to city centre, hospital, hotels and schools

NB: Property inspections are by appointment only

Central CBD Office Building

This dual-level CBD office building is available for immediate purchase and offers excellent value for the owner-occupier or investor wanting to take advantage of a prominent location with on-site parking.

Features include:

1,000sqm* of space over 2 levels with multiple tenancy opportunities

Located opposite Birch Carroll and Coyle City Cinemas and in close proximity to the City Lane/City Arcade development anchored by Woolworths and Anytime Fitness

Development infrastructure incentives may apply

1,012sqm* site zoned "Principle Centre CBD" with 10 on-site car parks

*Approximately

For ...

Free Stander on Flinders Street West

Prominently positioned on Flinders Street and featuring a brilliant period façade the building offers 358sqm* of modern flexible office space consisting of reception area, meeting rooms, individual and open plan office areas, kitchen & staff lunchroom, male & female ablutions including showers, extensive storage and 6 on site car parks.

Following key features:
- 358sqm* freestanding building
- 6 onsite parks, free Council carpark across the road
- Close to public transport and staff amenity
- Great exposure and signage opportunities to Flinders Street

For more information or to ar...

Development Opportunity - Prime CBD Location

An opportunity now exists to purchase a 1,012sqm* site within Townsville’s CBD.

With the CBD currently undergoing a revitalisation, the growing vibrancy and desirability of the CBD as a location is invaluable.

You don’t want to miss this offering, providing a rare development opportunity (STCA).

For further information or to arrange an inspection, contact Mark Fitzgerald or Dan Place at Knight Frank Townsville.

*Approximately

Freestanding professional offices

These well presented premises are configured as two tenancies of approx. 182 and 176 sqm. The 182 sqm is subject to a 5 year lease as of October 2018 at $45,000 p.a. + GST. The 176 sqm are suitable for an owner occupier or separate tenant.

Each tenancy is self contained with dedicated amenities, kitchen and electricity supply.

The building also offers ample storage and on site parking for 6 + vehicles.

Great location in Flinders Street opposite free public carpark in Aplin Street close to new CQU campus.
Inspect with Ray White Commercial on 4726 7888.

Iconic Freehold Guest House

Civic Guest House comprises a renovated 29 room guest house licensed for 78 backpackers
and comes fully equipped and trading producing good returns.
Accommodation includes male and female dormitories, single and double rooms and spacious kitchen,
dining, lounge and breakout areas.
The business is well established and is located in Townsville's CBD close to ferry and bus terminals.
Contact Ray White Commercial on 4726 7888 for more details.

CBD FREEHOLD BACKPACKER ACCOMMODATION

For Sale
$1,200,000

The 'Civic Guest House' has been a very successful backpacker operation in Townsville City for many years and is rated very highly by previous guests. The opportunity now exists for the freehold to be purchased as a going concern with a profitable business to be included.

The property boasts more than 800 m2 of the total building across three levels with 29 rooms of various styles and configurations and is licensed for a maximum of 78 occupants at any one time.

It’s positioned on a regular shaped 830 m2 allotment with a slight slope towards the rear. This ideal...